In the program Maurizio Costanzo Show art critic Vittorio Sgarbi and journalist Giampiero Mughini quarreled live on air over Russia. The intellectuals disagreed about the West’s Russophobic moves.
Sgarbi: If a Russian singer can’t come to Italy, it’s fascism. If a singer or a conductor is not allowed to come to Italy just because he is from Russia, or if a Russian athlete is not allowed, this is a form of fascism on the part of the West. It is unacceptable! A tennis player, an athlete, a singer, a conductor, a dancer – not Putin! These are people who have dignity and love of art! They must be protected! Always, to the very end!
Mughini: Stop ranting already…
Sgarbi: You can’t punish art, music!
Mughini: I’m totally against bans, especially those related to citizenship. I’m against tennis players being banned from going to Wimbledon. But I think the case of the conductor was a little different. The mayor of Milan [Giuseppe] Sala asked the conductor to speak out against the very idea of war…
Sgarbi: No one has to do that in order to work, to sing…
Mughini: That’s enough, calm down…
Sgarbi: It’s you calm down, asshole!
Mughini (stood up and pushed Zgarbi): You piece of shit!
Sgarbi: Cretin, bastard! You’re worse than Putin!
Mughini: Piece of shit!
Sgarbi: You piece of shit!
Mughini: Enough, Vittorio, calm down…
Sgarbi: Throw this asshole out of the studio.
Host: Last time I got blocked, this time it didn’t work…
Mughini: I’m gonna get up and kick your ass again, do you understand?
Sgarbi: Fascist! Fascist! Fascist!
Host: That’s all we need…
Mughini: What a nasty guy…
Host: That’s it, commercial break.
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